Due to the fact that the trial period is free, I'm trying out a new BLOG interface over at typepad. Don't erase this link from your bookmarks page or however you get here, because I might come back. But, for the next 30 days or so I'll be at www.joemartino.name.
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March 18th, 2006
March 17th, 2006
Let me put this in context, one of the major ways that I determine a win is by the percentage of people that we successfully move from Sunday A.M. to our small group environment. The higher the percentage the better I feel we’re doing as a church. I believe this for a whole list of reasons. In fact, maybe I’ll do a series of posts on why I believe small groups are so important, but that’s not this post. One author, whom I really appreciate is Andy Stanley. I tend to think the way he writes, and what he writes makes sense. Now, I do not want to try and recreate another North Point Community or Buckhead or anything else for that matter, but what Andy and his boys’ write makes sense to me. I use a little bit of everything from many different church strategist, but my thinking is probably most influenced by what Stanley and his people have to say about the importance of small groups. One of the things that I believe is important is closed small groups. In other words once a small group reaches a certain point it can no longer be a venue for its members to bring visitors. This is another area where he told me I was wrong. Summarizing the interaction he told me that I was wrong in two areas
1.Measuring success by the percentage of people we move into small groups and
2.Closing small groups.
In fact on #2 he told me “it won’t work.”
So I’m a SBC ordained minister, he’s a big wig in the SBC, so I bring out my big guns. I point out that one of our very own SBC guys has it working for him. I didn’t even get into Ed Young and fellowship church. He looks at me and tells me “It’s not working.” (I want to reiterate here, I really enjoyed meeting this guy and I look forward to more interaction with him, this post is not a slam on him. I promise I’m getting to what it is soon. ) I start to push him on the Andy Stanley thing. I ask, “Is Andy and his church lying?” They say it’s been wildly successful. He comes back with this statement. I’m going to put it in quotes but I want to state it may not be an exact quote.
“do you want me to tell you what’s wrong with Andy’s church? I live just a few minutes from Atlanta. My 9 year old daughter summed up what’s wrong….she came home and said to me: ‘That was a nice show’.
“the problem is they are doing a show, they’re Sunday morning service is a show. They’re not moving people like they want you to think they are.”
To the best of my recollection that is an accurate reiteration of our conversation. What struck me was the idea about the show. To me, this was the “big gun.” This was the argument that would help me see his point of view.
Here’s the thing. I’m ok with the show. I’m ok if people just come to my church b/c of what they perceive as a show. Don’t hang me just yet. Think about it. What is that statement really saying? Essentially the argument is, “it looks different then I’m used to.”
What makes it a show? How is that different then the swaying choirs of yesteryear? More importantly do you think that the crowds that were following Jesus throughout all of the Gospels really were following him because of the theology He was teaching? No way! They were following him because he was doing miracles and they wanted to see them. They were coming for the show. I’m not saying that Jesus was doing a show, simply that people were not coming to him for what we would call spiritually pure reasons. Does this mean that we should do a show for church?
The answer to that depends on what you believe on two separate issues. 1. What is a show and 2. What is the point of your Sunday A.M service? You could probably add a third question: are “shows’ inherently the wrong way to go?
If they’re doing a show by not teaching the Gospel, or running scantily clad women on stage, then yeah they’re wrong. If they are crafting their message in such as way as to cause people to talk about the message, then they’re doing it right. I personally believe the Sunday morning service is for the guests. I hope that the majority of those guests are unchurched people. How many people went to hear Jesus speak simply because they wanted to see if He was going to do a miracle that day? How many had their lives changed? Is that worth it? Is that ok? Can God be pleased and worshipped with actions that some might call a show? I think so.
Too often we say that, worship and church is about our motives and then we criticize people who doing something for God, because they’re not doing it the way we want them to. Often our best argument is that what they are doing is just a show. Well, today’s my coming out party. I’m here to say loud and proud that I’m ok if people call what we do on Sunday morning a show. If it causes more guests to come back, especially if those guests are unchurched and they hear the God’s truth in my message or the message of another speaker, then I win. I win because as Paul tells us, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. I cannot compromise on the message of the Gospel. We all born as enemies of God, and the only way to live in right relationship with Him is to accept the invitation to live in His story where he is the star. If we do that, we find that we are called to make disciples of all nations. We also find that often that involves doing things outside of our own comfort zone. Often it involves taking criticism for how we are doing what we are doing even though God gives us a great amount of freedom in this area.
March 16th, 2006
My first reaction was absolute sickness in my stomach. Then some anger that I didn't check this before I moved into this house then anger that he's allowed out. Than more sickness. If you're a parent and you've ever experienced this, you know the wide range of feelings that comes with it. I wanted to go out at 10:00 last night and drive in front of his house and see what it looked like. I wanted to post a sign that said, "Registered Sex Offender Lives Here".
Then I had one of the most horrible thoughts I've ever had, "what would Jesus do with this joker?" I hated that thought. The largest part of me doesn't want to treat this fellow like Jesus would.
Here's the immediate thoughts that came to mind.
•Love your neighbor as yourself
•pray for those who despitefully use you
•Blessed are the peacemakers
•God is not willing that any should perish
That last one was the hardest for me. I want this guy to die. To be honest I want Sexual Crimes (especially against kids) to be a capitol crime and I'm not even pro-death penalty but for these fellows I'd make an exception.
I want to be smart and protect my family, and yet I wonder how God views these people. My theology doesn’t make room for me to love these guys. I don’t know what to do with that. I wish I did, but I don’t. What are your thoughts. I’d be interested in hearing them.
March 14th, 2006
March 10th, 2006
March 9th, 2006
First Baptist Church of _______ will be building an addition to their church. If you know of any Christian electricians, heating & air, or plumbing contractors, please have them contact Pastor Keith (555-555-0044) to submit a bid.
I've changed some of the information but the general idea is there. Now, I'm off to try and remember where I've read somewhere about engaging out culture for Jesus.
March 2nd, 2006
March 1st, 2006
February 25th, 2006
February 24th, 2006
“It is impossible to be a follower of Christ and not be part of a local church.” That was the opening sentence to a book I picked up to read for few moments before I went to sleep. You know, just kill a few minutes before I try to get a little shut eye before one of the kids needs something at like 2:00a.m. Unfortunately, for my sleeping schedule I was hooked. It’s been a long time since I read an entire book through in one 24 hour span but it happened yesterday when I picked up The
This book is like riding one of those roller coasters that shoots you onto the track. The whole thing takes your breath away, makes your stomach do a few flips and leaves you at the end saying, “Holy Cow, let’s do that again.” It is a must read for anyone who wants to truly do, “church for the unchurched.” For that matter, it is a must read for anyone who just wants to do church. It’s a book that pushes churches to care more about counting changed lives than it is counting Sunday morning attendance.
One of the most enjoyable aspects of this book is, the way it’s written, almost as if you are discussing how church needs to be relevant with a group of friends over coffee. I highly encourage you to buy it and read it (Family Christian Bookstore has it for $12.99).
I’ll leave you with one more quote: “ The church will be most provocative when it is being itself, … a mini society that proclaims and imitates the person of Christ, and imitates his sacrificial service.”
February 23rd, 2006
Ok, so inspired by Peter King of SI I have decided to write a little ditty listing 32 things I think I know at 32. They are in NO particular order. I actually compiled a much larger list but these were the first 32.
- Being a father is the one of the greatest things I have ever done.
- The Steelers can actually win a Superbowl
- I hate church signs and stupid sayings that sound “scriptural”
- On a whole Christian schools have failed to accomplish their stated mission
- Wireless internet is the best invention since well….the internet
- Joe Paterno proves our society is far more “outcome” driven than character driven, regardless of what we say
- I am so far from where I thought I’d be at 32 when I was 22 that I’m not even sure I’m in the same book, let alone the same page.
- I miss my mom.
- Cowboy boots are one of the most comfortable shoes and IMHO have a bad rap
- Almost all music genres have some redeemable value in them.
- Nobody likes a being painted with broad brushes
- I hate moving
- I miss the ocean
- As art forms go, baseball is one of the best
- Anyone who says sex and drinking isn’t fun because it’s sin is either dumb or doing it wrong. Or I guess in denial. (I’m not condoning sin, I just think we need to be honest it is fun…not fulfilling but fun)
- I want very little to do with the faith I was taught as a child. (Anonymous comments will be deleted. My name’s up there, and if you want to post, that’s great but sign your name)
- One of the best friendships I’ve ever had is with a guy who never goes to church from the shore, and I miss him.
- Control is an illusion.
- Things don’t satisfy
- Nothing in the entire world is better than your daughter snuggling up to you and saying, “Daddy I love you.”
- The Half-off bookstore is the best
- I get sick when I think about some of the things I’ve said and done in the name of Christ in the past.
- I have been blessed to be able to look back and see positive things that I’ve been able to do in the name of Christ.
- Probably the person who had the greatest teacher in my life never stepped in a classroom
- Getting louder as you talk does nothing to help you prove your point.
- The church and education, two areas I’m passionate about, seem to be two places where mediocrity is not only encouraged, it’s rewarded.
- There is NOTHING like watching a birth. Every time I see one I am beyond amazed.
- Honest discussion is one of the best ways I have found to learn. It amazes me that people refuse to do it. Simply because some people abuse it doesn’t mean it’s not valuable.
- Life is a funny funny thing; once you think you’ve got it figured out it re-arranges itself to cause you to re-think things.
- Good fiends are truly rare, often over-looked and one of the greatest gifts that are given to us.
- Living on a budget is, like so many things in life, easy to do on paper and really hard to do in reality.
- Most people who complain about other people, are usually the biggest headache makers.
Actually I have a few more of these but these were the first 32 I wrote down. Maybe I’ll post the extras another day.
February 22nd, 2006
February 21st, 2006
February 2nd, 2006
January 31st, 2006
January 28th, 2006
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January 27th, 2006
I knew it sooner or later. While we don't watch the show, I love the cereal. Food Police! Go here to see what I'm talking about

